| Dragonwatch **Last Update: August 14, 2007** | |
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Pinky Narfanek Chainmail Guru
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| Subject: Dragonwatch **Last Update: August 14, 2007** Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:54 am | |
| I thought that some folks here might find this table interesting. I used to maintain it over at Maxminis and still do at Hordelings. But since not everyone goes to every site, I thought I'd put it up over here, too. Would you like to see the chart organized by Power Ranking instead of alphabetically? I will be covering as many of the True Dragons as I can, but I have limited resources. I will not be including mounted Dragons, but may include templated Dragons at my discretion. I don't have a particular set of criteria, but I generally won't count Undead Dragons of any sort as that that type of Dragon (ex: Zombie White Dragon does not count), but may include another templated Dragon if the template doesn't impact the physical appearance (too much). I hope you find it useful. Oh, and if someone can find the Night Below emblem (white or black symbol on a colored circle background) like this chart used to have, that would be great. I hate using these images as the emblem is typically much clearer and there's less noggin-scratching when trying to remember which boxart went with which set. Next Update: Unknown. If you know of any True Dragons not included in the Core books and Draconomicon, please post or email me the relevant information (Category: Chromatic, Planar, Lung, etc. and Size Range: from what to what).
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Kilsek Encounter Killer Defender of the Faith: DM
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| Subject: Re: Dragonwatch **Last Update: August 14, 2007** Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:47 am | |
| Awesome post! Ok call me stupid, but what do this mean? - Quote :
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Wraithborne Man of Renown
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| Subject: Re: Dragonwatch **Last Update: August 14, 2007** Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:08 pm | |
| Abbreviations for size...Tiny, Small, Medium, Large, Huge, Gargantuan, Colossal. | |
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Pinky Narfanek Chainmail Guru
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| Subject: Re: Dragonwatch **Last Update: August 14, 2007** Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:01 pm | |
| Wraithborne is indeed correct. You'd think that I'd remember to label my diagrams and charts.
But I've got something nicer coming in a few minutes... | |
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Pinky Narfanek Chainmail Guru
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| Subject: Re: Dragonwatch **Last Update: August 14, 2007** Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:20 pm | |
| It has been suggested that I change the ordering to reflect the relative power level of the Dragons (instead of just being alphabetical) and the points cost.
Do any of you have some suggestions as to what you might find useful? | |
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Kilsek Encounter Killer Defender of the Faith: DM
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| Subject: Re: Dragonwatch **Last Update: August 14, 2007** Sun Jul 29, 2007 7:47 am | |
| Nothing here, I just find this awesome | |
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RedSkullz Warlord
Number of posts : 745 Age : 49 Reputation : 0 Registration date : 2007-03-06
| Subject: Re: Dragonwatch **Last Update: August 14, 2007** Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:29 am | |
| Well i do frequent MM and hordelings occasionally but this is the first time i have seen the table. This list will help hurtbags like me that only have one dragon (sorceror on black...well i do have a few small ones) I cant wait to see the gem dragon slots fill in | |
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Wraithborne Man of Renown
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| Subject: Re: Dragonwatch **Last Update: August 14, 2007** Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:43 am | |
| - Pinky Narfanek wrote:
- It has been suggested that I change the ordering to reflect the relative power level of the Dragons (instead of just being alphabetical) and the points cost.
Do any of you have some suggestions as to what you might find useful? I prefer the order the way it is, the order in the Monster Manual is usually how my mind thinks anyway. | |
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Pinky Narfanek Chainmail Guru
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| Subject: Re: Dragonwatch **Last Update: August 14, 2007** Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:12 pm | |
| - RedSkullz wrote:
- Well i do frequent MM and hordelings occasionally but this is the first time i have seen the table. This list will help hurtbags like me that only have one dragon (sorceror on black...well i do have a few small ones)
I cant wait to see the gem dragon slots fill in Oh, it's there alright. Well, I know it still is on Hordelings. I've been posting to it of late to try and see if anyone there has that darned Night Below logo...I'm presuming it's still on Maxminis as well. But, just in case, don't look for postings by Pinky Narfanek. I'm "Can of the Cave Beer" or "CanoftheCaveBeer" on those boards. I have decided, after looking through Draconomicon that I'll probably end up charting out the rest of the True dragons. I mean, I'm already a good chunk of the way there. | |
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Pinky Narfanek Chainmail Guru
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| Subject: Re: Dragonwatch **Last Update: August 14, 2007** Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:15 pm | |
| - Wraithborne wrote:
- I prefer the order the way it is, the order in the Monster Manual is usually how my mind thinks anyway.
I can leave it that way here. The chart's easy enough to recreate (hooray screen captures!). But that way folks will have some choice as to whether they follow the alphabetical or power rankings! | |
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Kilsek Encounter Killer Defender of the Faith: DM
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| Subject: Re: Dragonwatch **Last Update: August 14, 2007** Tue Jul 31, 2007 8:44 am | |
| I like the power rankings | |
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Pinky Narfanek Chainmail Guru
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| Subject: Re: Dragonwatch **Last Update: August 14, 2007** Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:22 pm | |
| Well, it's stickied over at Greyhaze's site and I'll probably be doing the power rankings over there. I know that it's not the perfect solution, but it will be easy to find. | |
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ZER0 Necromancer Supreme
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| Subject: Re: Dragonwatch **Last Update: August 14, 2007** Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:17 pm | |
| awesome chart, very helpful for when I'm looking through a module and have to decide if I can grab up a couple of the dragons mentioned. Thanks! | |
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Pinky Narfanek Chainmail Guru
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| Subject: Re: Dragonwatch **Last Update: August 14, 2007** Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:29 pm | |
| It's my pleasure.
Sometime in the next couple days, I will be making a major update to the charts. I'm working on getting the Lung, Faerunian, and Planar dragons onto charts of their own.
Which reminds me. I've got to find that source for that I used for the Gem dragons. I hate doing it, but I'm not going to fork out that kind of dough for a couple books that I'll never actually use beyond making these charts. | |
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Pinky Narfanek Chainmail Guru
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| Subject: Re: Dragonwatch **Last Update: August 14, 2007** Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:29 am | |
| Update and minor chart revision (set symbols).
I'll revise it back to alphabetical listings when I get a bit more time. | |
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Kilsek Encounter Killer Defender of the Faith: DM
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| Subject: Re: Dragonwatch **Last Update: August 14, 2007** Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:26 am | |
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ZER0 Necromancer Supreme
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| Subject: Re: Dragonwatch **Last Update: August 14, 2007** Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:36 pm | |
| awesome, I really dig the set symbols. Takes me like a second longer sometimes, because I never got boxes of the old ones, but I'll have some figs for it (black dragon from DE). Great chart though, hopefully DoD1 will fill that sucker in a bit more. | |
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RedSkullz Warlord
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| Subject: Re: Dragonwatch **Last Update: August 14, 2007** Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:43 pm | |
| Excellent work pinky!! Looking great man!! COME ON GEM DRAGONS!! :) | |
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Pinky Narfanek Chainmail Guru
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| Subject: Re: Dragonwatch **Last Update: August 14, 2007** Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:32 pm | |
| Well, if I ever get the Night Below (and subsequent) emblems, I'll be happy to change back. But my own personal "issues" prevent me from simply mixing them together--it has to be one or the other. And I was a bit worried that people wouldn't instantly recognize the booster art (heck, I don't recognize it instantly) so that's why I included the key at the top. I'll probably tweak that when I have computer access again. | |
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Pinky Narfanek Chainmail Guru
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| Subject: Re: Dragonwatch **Last Update: August 14, 2007** Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:19 am | |
| I have updated the chart again. The listing has been reverted to alphabetical and the "power ranking" has been linked at greyhaze's DDM Spoilers site.
The key was tightened a bit, and I'll probably tweak that again in a couple weeks, but I'm not going to worry overmuch about it as all I'd be doing would be shrinking it a bit. It'll still be quite readable, so don't worry about that. It's really just a neatness issue. | |
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